At the end of 2025, Moore Threads soared 468% on its first day of trading, with its market value shooting straight toward 300 billion. The scene reminded veteran investors of PetroChina in 2007: issued at 16.7, opened directly at 48.6, with 70 billion in turnover that day—accounting for 40% of the entire A-share trading volume.



Those who entered the market back then have been riding the waves for 18 years, and are just about breaking even now.

Things are even livelier in Hong Kong stocks. In the first 11 months of this year, 91 companies rushed to go public, raising HKD 259.889 billion—a year-on-year surge of 228%, ranking first among global exchanges. But encountering Xiaomian on its first day poured cold water on the market—falling nearly 29% below the issue price. Those who got a lot said, "This is what it means to get a big bowl of noodles."

On the A-share side, there’s a focus on stabilizing volatility and supporting sci-tech innovation: Moore Threads was listed, Muxi started its IPO subscription, Unitree finished IPO counseling, Biren is in its fourth round of counseling, and Enflame reignited its listing plans... You drew Xiaomian in Hong Kong and saw a loss, I drew Moore Threads in A-shares—either way, it’s all good.

There’s a saying that hits home: “The most beautiful process in A-shares is going from insufficient capacity to overcapacity, turning industrial pearls into cabbages.”

Those not yet listed are busy with IPOs, those already listed are thinking about secondary offerings, those unlocked want to cut their holdings, institutions are clustering, quant funds are iterating, and retail investors just want to find a way to survive in the cracks. The market’s daily turnover has shrunk to 1.5 trillion, an eight-month low, but quant strategies are still harvesting excess returns through rapid rotation—of 389 products under billion-level private funds reaching new net value highs, 324 are quant funds, making up more than 80%.

The giant new stocks have siphoned off liquidity from the STAR Market. The domestic chip sector is still debating whether Moore Threads’ listing expands valuation space or reduces scarcity. But with optical chips dropping to their year line, non-bank financials stabilizing, and certain faint expectations emerging, some people have quietly picked the peaches.

From PetroChina to Moore Threads, from traditional manufacturing to emerging industries, capital and resources are being redistributed between the old and new economies. No one stands at the wind’s outlet forever, but there are always those who “peak at debut.”

Every generation has its own PetroChina.
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RugPullSurvivorvip
· 17h ago
468%? Isn’t this basically a scam to fleece investors? It’ll take until 2018 just to break even... I’d better see if there’s a chance to get in on Muxi instead.
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MEVSandwichMakervip
· 17h ago
468%? How many people got stuck buying at the peak? Breaking even in 2018 is really insane.
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SatoshiHeirvip
· 17h ago
It should be pointed out that this article makes a fundamental mistake—it mistakes the illusion of market liquidity for value creation. The 468% surge in Moore Threads is essentially a game of capital flows, without a doubt. According to the logic of the white paper, the statement that retail investors are struggling to survive in the cracks hits the truth—quantitative products account for more than 80% of the market and yet no one questions it; this is surreal in itself. Let’s return to the fundamentals of the market: PetroChina’s 18-year payback period and Moore Threads’ one-day surge may seem contradictory, but in fact, both validate the same law—the rotation of "chives" (retail investors being taken advantage of). It’s obvious that the cycle from "industrial gem to industrial cabbage" keeps repeating in every cycle, but the participants never learn.
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HackerWhoCaresvip
· 17h ago
468%? How many years would it take to break even? The shadow of PetroChina still hasn't faded. Retail investors are just trying to survive in the cracks, while quant funds have already pocketed all the excess returns—hilarious. An industrial gem turned into industrial cabbage—what a perfect description. Is this the fate of A-shares? Does Moore Threads open up valuation space or reduce scarcity? That's a great question, but the key is, I didn't get an allocation. Hong Kong stocks dropped 29% below the IPO price—this loss really hurts. If you peak at debut, does that mean it's all downhill from here? Quants squeezing out retail investors—this is becoming more and more obvious.
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GmGmNoGnvip
· 17h ago
Here we go again, new stocks have to skyrocket, retail investors have to subscribe to IPOs, why does this cycle feel so familiar? Only breaking even in 2018? Then I’ll just keep lying low. This is too intense, I’m afraid my heart can’t handle it. Quant funds are harvesting retail investors, institutions are banding together, we retail investors really can only survive in the cracks, hahaha. An industrial gem turns into industrial cabbage, hilarious, this is the true essence of A-shares, right? Hong Kong stocks broke below IPO price by 29%—now that’s real, unlike some new stocks that hit the daily limit every day. Is Moore Threads really that reliable this time, or is it just another trap? Some people have already quietly taken profits, and I’m still struggling over whether to buy or not. “Peaking at debut,” that’s about those stocks that drop as soon as they go public, right?
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SerNgmivip
· 17h ago
PetroChina takes 18 years to break even? Ha, I'll bet five bucks that the next PetroChina will take another twenty years.
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